why do i hate steely dan

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I don’t really know what you’re looking for in music. I don’t know how to musically explain it; I just like Steely Dan. With a gun It’s not that rare. Why am I thinking about this? I find it very annoying, and his odd vocal mannerisms make me want to throw stuff against the wall. Steely Dan is part of what i like to call the “thinking mans rock.” Along with others like the Blue Oyster Cult Dire Straits (who i really dig) or Supertramp, very insightful lyrics with intricate instrumentation. I did “get them,” but I still don’t like them. Three little words that girls use to hide their feelings The fundamental opposite of I Love You. But years later I find I just don’t feel anything now when I’m listening. 6:25 pm. No, they aren’t really a band. You didn’t want anyone else to think you were uncool, like Steely Dan. People do not like Anne Hathaway. If you looked at my music collection, you’d expect to see them. What is it that pisses you off? classically trained? I think it’s time to form a dark and sinister anti steely Dan cult. Don’t expect any audience interaction. 6:09 pm. Whatever. 11:34 am. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. So I can absolutely love Steely Dan and Led Zeppelin and Fleetwood Mac and Waylon Jennings and Keith Whitley and Sidney Bechet. I could be wrong but I have seen your face before All of a sudden, despite the continued coolness of bagging on Steely Dan and Supertramp as the denizens of uncool on the classic rock format, you began to understand why they were essential. I now have a copy of every group and solo album/cd they ever put out lol, the pistolero September 5, 2017 @ Hopefully you’ll see my point, but if not, we’re all friends here 🙂 I wish I could hang them on my wall like a painting, somehow. Somewhere in there my tastes, my reason for listening to music or seeing movies or looking at art, went from an intellectual interest to learn about stuff to a need to emotionally engage with something, to fall in love. And slavicdiva, it seems you are unable to grasp the intentions of their lyrics for Deacon Blues. 10:27 pm, Brett, I’m right out there with though as a Texan, I tend to lean to Outlaw Country. Dude, you don’t *work* the saxophone, you *play* the saxophone – if playing the sax is work, you shouldn’t be doing it. Why Do People Hate Jews? It’s just that when a piece of art is created from the heart and/or mind how could some truly have license to deem that it sucks? A total product of the 70s…selfish, pretentious, faux-worldly. There is no rage, anger or sadness in any of their songs. Scotty J Netflix has documentaries with critical commentary and vintage performance footage. I completely get what you’re writing here. Great setlist, tight band and a soundman who knew his stuff. No really I think they are sh1t I just can’t cope with anyone thinking I am not capable of understanding the rich textures of those 11th and 13th chords and those sardonic yet deeply meaningful and metaphorical lyrics. It seems bizarre that of all the bands in the world, Steely Dan would be the one to piss someone off. August 21, 2018 @ Steely Dan is probably right up at the top as a studio band and as someone who has never really been that into hearing live music I always gravitate to performers that take recorded music seriously and that was really true with Steely Dan. Admittedly, I am a word-nerd, and lots of pop lyrics annoy me – but none so much as theirs. Packed house. 12:33 pm, ‘That’s ‘Retha Franklin she don’t remember the Queen of Soul’, Sean Murphy Lol…..your lame worshiping of this mediocre soft rock trash is amusing. There are way worse bands, present and past, to hate on and you keep contradicting yourself when u say u hate them, but have respect for them. And Gabriel is so pretty! when their album two against nature came out almost 20 years ago a friend I used to carpool to work with played it every other day when he had command of the cd player. Here’s what the study concluded: Here’s what the study concluded: A community of religiously committed Evangelicals holds … redoing tracks, and changing arrangements etc. It either speaks to you or it doesn’t and you move on. I didn’t understand the dan for a while. So why don’t I like Steely Dan? The only song I liked, somewhat, was “Reelin’ in the Years”, because I thought it was a Thin Lizzy song until I was old enough to know better. But not really. With a gun I can’t quite decide whether I’m just dyslexic about steely Dan or whether they really are just sh1t. Why Don’t I Like Steely Dan? However, I endured, and forced myself to listen to aja, then the royal scam. But somehow, somewhere in there, it became one. 12:55 pm. -Ed. Fagen or Becker themselves? I could go on and on, but I won’t Except to say I know what it feels like to HATE them. Im in my early 30s and as a teenager, i couldnt stand this music, but as ive grown older, i appreciate it more. Another group I enjoyed more as I aged was Moody Blues for similar reasons. Steely Dan is Jimmy buffet level elevator music at best. Murder the man September 6, 2017 @ Craftsmanship. If it didn’t sound like my music, it sucked. Until he caught you with your fingers in the till Your email address will not be published. BuzzFeed As Is Something for everyone interested in hair, makeup, … blue demon They were superficially goofy and very eclectic, but I quite enjoy their music myself. Gena R. Thank you for this answer and many of the others for helping me understand why this band’s music often makes my skin crawl. September 29, 2019 @ Now that I watched that documentary, I realize that part of the problem is that they aren’t really a “band”. Why? September 8, 2017 @ September 5, 2017 @ Love the other comment about listening to guys like these with Keith Whitley, cause we can! Why do I love the mall when I hate consumerism? In high school, I was the guy with over 200 tapes. The only worse answer is, “I like everything…except Country”. I’m glad I love them now. 10:27 am. They may not be the best band in the history of music, but there are alot worse bands out there, present and past. I have lots of reasons for loving Steely Dan and believing that they don’t suck, but who cares? Usually, it’s just comments like “Fuck Steely Dan!” or “Steely Dan fucking sucks!” or “Listening to Steely Dan makes my bone marrow hurt,” and so on. 1:23 am. Some of my friends don’t like it and i understand, its complex with lots of metaphors and that’s difficult for people. Haha, BrushHawg September 5, 2017 @ Was exposed against my will to them last night. My my, what have we here? Like Steely Dan. You will be what you are just the same This entry was posted on Wednesday, August 8th, 2007 at 11:55 am and is filed under Dead Guy, falling in love, growing up, Screenwriting, Steely Dan. But looking back as a youngster, I recall the feelings of, “Man, I don’t know, this feels dull, but maybe I don’t know because I’m not a professional musician.” Now I’m more aware of the corporate crap and self-promotion. But if you can handle that and get over it, the pay off is huge 🙂. RIP, Walter Becker….. Mark How much Steely Dan do you own? My response to Random Question #3 notwithstanding, it appears that I may have changed. Just give fair warning any time you come around, If you ask a professional musician what they think about Steely Dan, in my experience, they all say, “the best, but they didn’t make good songs.”. sbach66 Two guys hiring session musicians that are playing pre-determined parts from sheet music with no improvisation or rubbing off of the individual musician’s personality is usually going to sound sterile and bland. We’ve all had people that were “perfect” for us, that friends and family couldn’t believe we weren’t crazy about, that we just weren’t that interested in. Ugh!!! The near perfect description of a jazz musician’s life. Random Notes It’s too nasal and smart-alec in tone for my taste. Thank for the article, Trig!!! But somehow, somewhere in there, it became one. Their music is boredom in the … Like it does for every band, classic rock radio condensed what was otherwise a quite involved and diverse musical legacy down to a few select tracks that it summarily shoved down your throat for decades and decades until you loved to hate it, but for some sadistic reason couldn’t stop listening, possibly because it still was better than Top 40, or the country format after the Class of ’89, and Pandora and Spotify were still decades away. SD were definitely an “uncool” band with “uncool” songs that takes time and experience to fully appreciate, even if you never gravitate to full fandom. They are brilliant musicians and songwriters. The main reason why I can’t listen to their music is because they (intentionally) record it ‘dry’ and ‘dead’ sounding especially the drums. With Steely Dan, from what I understand, their work was never predicated on “getting that thing in there”, as you say, that would “make people fall in love” with their creative output. Jack Williams i dont like Steely Dan either, but my boyfriend loves them… I have tried to listen to them to understand n get into that space my boyfriend is in but it’s not going to happen… I do like the song Peg… but that’s as far as it goes for me…. Last night I finished – after three attempts – watching a Tivo’d episode of “Classic Albums” on their landmark “Aja” record from 1977. Critic B, with whom I never agree, is just as useful. It’s a great danceable pop hit. Putting off something that needs to be … It’s a little amusing that you praise Tate and Perry, and at the same time seem to claim to be an acceptable judge of musicianship and songcraft. I fall in love with new (or “new to me”) songs on a regular basis, and I’m always desperately looking for songs to fall in love with, artists to collect, catalogs to complete. Why Steely Dan's 7th studio album, "Gaucho," works so well 40 years after its release. This was, by far, the most mature and enlightening discussion I have come across in debating the “suckiness” of a band. Then there’s Donald Fagen’s voice. Steely Dan have announced that their 2020 Earth After Hours Tour with Steve Winwood has been rescheduled. The atmosphere is in the harmony. A big one. September 5, 2017 @ Poolside, naturally, piña colada in hand. ‘Black Cow’ shows they could get funky when they wanted, too. I appreciate and love music just as much as you, but I fail to see how someone who seems to have such a rich musical background can’t love those songs (or the majority of Steely Dan’s other work). According to Nick Stockton of Wired , the real reason has to do with mirrors. Acca Dacca September 6, 2017 @ With Luger in hand, I understood that you will soon be leavin’ town Keep loving music 😛. My parents always respected my room when I was a kid and I can't seem to find an explanation for it. These guys are fucking lame. Or why they were what they were. Even in my younger and punker days, I … As for songs, I still love “T.B. Hey that’s how I got here too. And just to get this on the record, yes, Walter Becker and Donald Fagen were the frontmen of Steely Dan, but the musicians they had with them came from a wide swath of the L.A. session mafia of the 1970s, including Michael McDonald (of the Doobie Brothers), drummer Rick Marotta, and keyboardist Don Grolnick (the latter two of whom worked with Jackson Browne and Linda Ronstadt), to name just three. September 5, 2017 @ Each word drips with a cool wry irony, their songs dealing with the shady oddballs on the fringes of society rather than the typical love and heartbreak imagery pop so often resorts to. She went back to her book and I kept watching. September 7, 2017 @ Steely Dan, Frank Zappa and the Grateful Dead I will never get as long as I live. 4:54 pm. Get real! Gumslasher That freaked me out, man. Six String Richie You may also dig this band too…A title dusting of Fagen & Becker. I always thought ‘Stuck In The Middle With You’ would make a great country song. I’m not sure if they leave me cold, or if I find them pretentious (imagine that), or what, but I don’t care for them. Because Steely Dan was cool. So there you were being force fed “Reelin’ In The Years” and “Do It Again” over and over again with no recourse, and telling your fellow classic rock buddies how much Steely Dan sucked. I can clearly see some stuff that is fine and interesting and maybe even respectable, but which gives us nothing to fall in love with. Bill So yes, Steely Dan sucks. I know exactly what u mean about not getting any emotional rewards from listening to them, but what bands do you listen to that get u satisfied. Personally, I love it. Possibly. Great guitar. They would bring in separate groups of session players so they could hear different interpretations of the music. What I almost like the most about steely dan is the combined personality of Becker and Fagen. EW in DFW Just saying. And you should feel no shame in saying it. My sneaking suspicion is that most people never expand their horizons enough to find the things that they would appreciate the most, but that’s just a guess and I’m not about to start telling people they need to listen to what I like instead of that shit they like just on the chance that it’s actually possible for someone to have “better” taste than someone else and that I am the only one who really knows the true quality of anything. I mean, they’re good but I don’t like them. ( Log Out /  September 5, 2017 @ Everything every one of us says is something that we think. In your opinion (and in mine, though that’s not really important) they suck. There is only inconvenience, irony and casual lamentation. 4:55 pm. Some did, some didn’t. Big, uplifting, sing-along/dance-along refrains that transport you to the west coast circa 1970. Some of the melodies that they discovered still blow my mind every time I hear them. ( Log Out /  The session guys made significant creative contributions. This is the music you hear in frat houses when the brothers are trying to put on a sophisticated air–a modern day equivalent of putting on Hefner-style dressing gowns and smoking pipes. Now there is much more at stake than “getting the story to work.” Suddenly the only thing that matters is that emotional attachment. Lone Wolf The guy painted like your “supposed to” and did all the right things to make the professors and academics of the time go ga ga, but it didn’t stand the test of time because there wasn’t an edge of realness, just polish. After having this realization I looked back on the stuff I have written as well as the stuff I am writing now. September 7, 2017 @ I hate their lyrics. That being said, fuck Steely Dan! 11:38 am. I’m jealous. I think the songs are emotionally aloof and fail to connect with hard-edged listeners. Your musical elitism will go up in spades. What are you, like 15? Adult ADHD Symptoms Does it take you forever to make a doctor’s appointment, clean out your garage, or do your taxes? I’ve tried, I’ve, actually, made an effort to appreciate, I have all the albums and spent many hours listening, researching and pondering, but i truly hate them. September 5, 2017 @ Steely Dan Produced by Gary Katz Album Gaucho Gaucho Lyrics [Verse 1] Just when I say "Boy we can't miss You are golden" Then you do this You say this guy is so cool Snapping his fingers … Lots of folks don’t seem to like jazz. Maybe you knew that despite the narrow playlist on the radio, Steely Dan had even better deep cuts, or hadn’t stopped recording in the 70’s, despite the radio ignoring it. Here’s the deal. Listen to Baxter’s guitar on their first three records. If you don’t connect with them, that’s cool. I can’t figure it out, either. 1:52 pm. I vaguely remember their songs being played at Pirates games. I'm legitimately curious. And leave him lying in the rain? 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